Session 1: Part 2

Facilitated by Suzanne Spooner, July 2015.

Part 2: The Conversation Continues

Tell us, what have you heard?

I’ve heard that one person after a disaster that has nothing to do with any of your doings, can suddenly try and tell the peoples that- I’m sorry, I am having a very hard time communicating in your language because (laughter) your language is extremely dense, like, it’s, I mean . . .

(laugh) Right, I have heard this before.

It doesn’t roll of the tongue, it’s ummm . . .

You’re doing a great job, by the way.

(laugh) Really, cause I feel like I’m failing you, I feel like I’m not describing things in your language even properly.

So, this one person did what, that you were sharing with me. There was a natural disaster or something?

Oh yes, so, in your country I believe or at least in the area where you live, there’s a lot of times a disaster and someone will rise up, especially, its in the South of your nation isn’t it, like the Southeast. The people will rise up, an old man say, and he’ll proclaim that it was the cosmos and that they all have to do something in the name of the cosmos but it never lines up exactly with what needs to be done on your actual planet in order for things to become more stable and for things to become more balanced.

What else have you heard about what’s happening on Earth?

(laughter) I mean, the stuff about the Northern Hemisphere is pretty funny, we make jokes about it here, um, because we’ve never heard about a planet that has been given so many chances and has just screwed up royally (laugh) multiple times. And you guys have been whitewashed, I mean literally your waters have risen to take over lands just because the council just was so fed up in your area, as I understand. I remember some stories of people, friends that I have, that tell me about your planet and how the Northern Hemisphere had everything and they kept telling the rest of the world that they belonged to the North. Which A, doesn’t make any sense to us because as we understand it, the North is completely different from the South and there’s, I mean, great distances and stuff like that. As far as we understand, your species has not transcended space and time like we have, so the rat race for the land is extremely silly to us. You guys have plenty of it (laugh). And obviously we see the fighting, we saw the atomic weapons used and . . .

What did you guys think of that?

Ummm, we’ve seen it before. We knew what was going to happen, especially me and my friends because of our –

Energy background?

Well, yeah, I mean, our intellectual capacities. We know what has happened to other planets that (laughter) have done such things and  its rather chaotic for Earthlings because from your point of view or from, well, at least your point of view we understand that you guys don’t seem to be in connection or communication even with your council. Everyone else is, mostly, in communication with their councils and is pretty aware of what the heck their council wants them to do and what also not to do. To remain balanced and stray away from things that they know . . .

So why is it that Earth is so isolated from their council?

Hmmmm, there is one troubling species in the corner of your universe. We’ll call it that because you can actually travel between universes, there’s not one. It’s not one, they do bounce against, literally, one another. It’s an infinite multiverse and to you its frivolous because as you understand it, I believe you guys on Earth cannot comprehend beyond our single universe because you have not mapped that yet. So it’s kind of weird to imagine that there would be another one but there is and you guys are right on track. In terms of your corner of this particular universe, as I understand it, there is a species that you guys are aware of already that has caused trouble in the past and are still causing trouble on your surface.

And what species would you be referring to?

The Reptilians. They’re a, I mean, we use the word lizard and that is, as far as I know, actually from our planet because I think we are one of the first ones to interact with these guys.


On Kylox?

Yeah, some of these Reptilians. They are, I mean they’re fiercely loyal to their own kind but they don’t care about causing chaos. And they are really, really advanced in what we call fog weapons systems. You guys are not familiar with this yet but you will be.

What is fog weapons systems?

So, actually you can saturate an atmosphere with particles or with energy itself, depending on who is in charge and what they want to do with the surface and who is on the surface. And the Reptilians are particularly adept at tuning their weapons systems. This I know because I studied weapons systems, on Kylox actually. That’s where my formal training actually came in. As far as I know, I was being prepped before a potential invasion by the Reptilians of our home planet, but it was a sub-branch of the Reptilians, I don’t know their name. They are more gray though, than green, as you would know it. They’re basically the cousins of the larger race. There is a green one and I can keep using the colors, that . . . I am familiar with some English and I am not really sure how much of that is what is being channeled through Phil or if it is something that I’ve picked up as well. So we will just say it’s a little bit of both.

It sounds very English, you’re doing very well.


Matter of fact, do you think you could demonstrate a little bit of your own language through him?

Hmmm, ummm, (long pause) it’s very hard to pronounce for him. He is really trying his best.

If it’s too much its no problem.

Umm, the problem with our language is it’s a lot of consonants together, so for him, he wants to enunciate for you and (laugh) our language, umm, we’ve been told already (laugh) we should try and easen up on our language (laughter).

(laugh) Ok.

We need to make it a little easier for outsiders who meet us because they cannot . . . so I, ah, I actually have studied English to a degree but not as much to converse.

He has a great study of the Earth languages.



Yes and I think that’s because he is, it’s hard to say, to be honest. I don’t feel like I know Phil. Umm, so I’m really sorry I can’t answer more questions about him right now. I might be able to if you ask me some more questions umm, but I don’t, I don’t know too much about him right now.

Ok, well, that’s ok. We want to get to know you a little bit better. You had mentioned, was it the Ministry of Science?


Ok, tell us about the Ministry of Science.

So that’s just an aggregate term. I am sure that in your society it would be considered rather silly to call it that but, we just use it as an all-encompassing term. It includes everything from mathematics to I mean, the study of kinetics in all of its forms. Whether it is a military application or whether it is a civilian application. And we don’t take the time to first set out on a project that we distinguish as military or civilian, we just set out on a project and when we see its applications we hand it over immediately and we give a written report as to our suggestions, which are taken very, very seriously by our government because of the tests we passed to get to where we are today.

What were those tests like for you?

Oh, they were grueling! Very grueling, I mean, I had to survive, like, I mean in a suit, on the surface for 3 days. Much like some of your military personal do strenuous tests here on this planet. It’s not unlike that, it’s you know, try and survive, make a shelter, make sense of the storms, try to predict storms. That’s something we try to do to help our home planet better make sense of our weather systems and the problem with weather systems is that they are ever evolving. We also made the mistake of messing with our weather systems and, unfortunately, they are tainted to a degree but they’re still in shape. And they’re still revolving around our planet but they are not what they once were. We have a much thinner atmosphere and we’ve had to, well, we didn’t have to but we did, we chose to. We chose to fill our atmosphere with certain particles; it was actually gold, as far as I know. And that helps keep away some of the deadly radiation that we don’t want. It helps, cause, I mean, the Sun in our area, in our solar system, is very bright. It is, I mean it is a white star. It’s huge.

So it is a different Sun than it is in the Earth solar system?

Yeah, it’s bigger. And we’re not as close, I guess you could say, as you are to yours. But we’re by no means cold. It’s a very temperate climate for the most part on our planet.

An are you talking about the – ?

The Kylox.

Kylox, OK.

The M1, the research planet, where the laboratory is, the winds get so volatile and that’s because we blew away the atmosphere trying to create that energy system. We were trying to create an entire energy system out of a terrestrial object, not unlike your moon. And we thought it would be a perfect way to, you know, to (sigh) decrease the dependency on energy systems we had to keep getting on our home planet, on Kylox. And so we were very interested in zero-point energy systems, especially to the point where our atmosphere on Kylox started to, more or less, disintegrate.

Wow, so that was a big deal.

Yeah, I mean, for a long time people were coming up with designs for like gas-mask suits and talking about how we were going to have to live that way but it’s not the case, we were able to make sense of things. There are skyscrapers and cities and, I mean, most of the time people love being outdoors. They love being around the trees, they’re tropical, you might mistake them for palm trees. And they, especially in the capital city, umm (long pause) yeah Mechrisnek, uh, Mechrisnek is, is a big city (laugh) and it’s –

Can you spell that?

Umm, M-E-C-H, Oh my gosh, your language is tough, R-I and then it goes S-N-E-K.

Ok, thank you, Mechrisnek.

And the tower, our tallest building in Mechrisnek, is not unlike your, the new tower that was built in, umm, the big deserts where all the wars are happening.


Yes, yup.


In Dubai, ok, interesting. Ok, so M1 is research planet where you are experimenting with different energy systems and experimentations?

Yeah, there’s no experimentation on living things. It’s all, as I said Nikola Tesla, that name you’ll be familiar with, it’s all in relation to him. So he is not originally from Earth. He came to impart knowledge, not only in the center part, I believe you call it Europe, but also when he moved across the water. He was there to impart knowledge on your Northern Hemisphere and your Northern Hemisphere refused his knowledge. And unfortunately the people in control reserved the –

Ok, cause I was going to say there are a lot of people that are really wanting that.

Absolutely, yeah, it’s the people that are in control. See the thing is about our planet, we have democracy just like you guys but there is more of a sense of what needs to be done in the collective priority sense. It’s really hard to come up with a term in English to describe what we do. Because first it’s dispersed unconsciously at a collective level amongst all of our peoples, these ideas and these values. And it’s not as you might think, it’s not dictatorial, it’s not brainwashing. Our planet above all seeks balance, as I had mentioned before, and that is the precursor to success and progress. So without the fundamentals of balance in place, and without your emotions in check, you’re liable to experience destruction and chaos of a type that, it is irreconcilable at a certain point. And your society is going to come to that realization very soon.

So what is going to cause that realization, do you see?

Again I see Antarctica playing a very big role in the future and it has to do with the fact that the water, as I know it, is rising so the cities where a lot of your people dwell now aren’t going to be around soon. And, like I said, that’s sad and I know many of you would want to cry, but it’s unfortunately your mistake.

So is that something you see happening in a quick time frame or is it a gradual thing?

Unfortunately it’s going to be a very gradual, but it’s going to be very constant. And I’m really, really sorry to report this to you and your species if you weren’t aware of this. But in terms of what needs to be done to make sure your species does carry on and that Earth does carry on, the council decided instead of letting the waters take over all the lands again, they’re going to give the Southern Hemisphere a shot. And the reason why, I think, they’ve done this is because you guys have the ability now to traverse your planet. So you can actually get some of the minds that do matter and are thinking, you know, at a collective Earthly level as to what can be done and what should be done and how to do it properly and ethically. They can get to the others that are being given, the individuals and the chances and the intellectual capacities really, even though they are poorer, lacking in natural resources, they are ravaged by, you know, conflict and even war in some places. We are genuinely confused on our planet why your species is fighting over desert (laugh) because we have encountered deserts too and as far as we know there is not much there for us. I mean nobody lives in our deserts.

I think it is more for the fossil fuels because we haven’t evolved enough to use something beyond fossil fuels, would that make sense?

Hmmm, OK, absolutely.

Kind of stupid (laughter).

It’s understandable but in the scheme of things it is understandable what happened. That fog weapons system is totally obfuscating the average persons ability even, to – you call them days and I’m really confused by this term because we don’t have this term on our planet, we don’t have the concept of a day on our planet. We have ummm –

Do you keep time?

We do keep track of time, yup, but we don’t like, it’s not like a rigid like, umm, gosh, time is, well we experience time differently than you guys. It takes longer for the sun to actually go around our planet, so, at times we are experiencing more sunlight and at times we are experiencing like pitch black. So cities have definitely flourished for a reason on our, on Kylox, but our species overall is, as far as I understand, it’s you know, of white, almost translucent skin because of our need to adapt to the extreme darkness. Because we have such a long rotational period.

Tell me more about what you know about the councils?

(laugh) They are extremely equipped. So what I mean by that is they can influence your planet at an energetic level. But when a fog weapons system is utilized or deployed, like it is on your planet, there is almost nothing that they can do except for continue to try to bombard the surface with their thoughts and beliefs. So they do that in an intense way and this is one of the only places, as far as I ever heard, where the council does it this way in the universe that we reside in. They will choose individuals to either be born or, I mean, worse for the individuals that are not born this way, they just receive a bunch of information. And a lot of times they don’t know what to do with it. A lot of times they don’t even do anything with it. But that’s the council trying to break the first phase of that fog weapons system deployed by the Reptilians. The Reptilians did that on purpose to, I mean, to obliterate, you know, critical thought but also the ability to recognize that there is a council that does oversee your planet and that area of the solar system. Because there’s councils that are close to you, as far as I can tell. But they don’t, I mean there is an Earth specific one because of how much is going on in your area.

And, you know, we’re interested in your planet. We have books on your planet. But I think it has been about 200 years in your time since we visited or anybody’s picked up any more knowledge and like written it, I don’t know, written it down or published it. Because it’s talked about but it takes a while for some reason, for us to, oh, it’s because we don’t, we don’t cut trees down. We don’t like to do that, so to make like writing possible, it actually is a form of energy and that was another part of the M1 laboratories. It’s a pretty big complex that I’m talking about on this terrestrial object. These facilities are designed to help Kylox in a lot of ways. And so it’s very important that we do that, boy (sigh) because, gosh, English is so difficult (sigh). It’s important that we publish our information because obviously we want to share that but we had to actually – in opposite of your species, we actually did the, as far as I know, we did the reverse. Your species believes that it wrote down things first and then it’s capable of transmitting communications from brain to brain. We do that automatically, so that’s our default, uh (pause) I don’t know, primary mode of communication. And we easily disseminate. And it’s not an annoying thing. It’s not like “oh, ding!” you know, “you got a new message from the government” in your head. It’s not like that. It’s imbued in our electro-signaling.


So, kind of like an internal email system?

Ehm, it’s more of a feeling that we all get. So everybody is very empathetic towards one another, so people are capable of understanding one another and where they’re coming from pretty quickly. So in terms of like, collective dreams, visions, uh, values, it’s really easy to share those with one another because it’s really easy to feel where someone else is coming from. But that was part of our training, especially for M1 (laugh). We had to control our emotions because there’s no way they were going to let us near this equipment and, I mean, like to experiment (laughter) with this stuff if we had emotions because we would just get frustrated.

So, then, because you can feel and understand what people are wanting to do, does that mean you can create a lot faster and easier?

We can create some things much faster it seems, but, like, our logistics originally were very poor. And our value system did get in the way, but because of the demand, you know, for communication and the lack of devices, we had to create something. And so there was always a lot of talking between peoples and lots of feeling. Feeling of, like, one another’s, not physically feeling but like, you’re sitting in the room paying attention to one another. And that is of the utmost importance in our society. It’s better to stand there for 30 minutes, in our society, even if somebody’s not done talking because you don’t want to disrupt the communications. So in that time, it looks like we’re not doing anything but we’re actually processing a lot of stuff and we’re actually thinking about a lot of things. And we’re actually just doing other things because that’s how we get to communicate. We get to receive really awesome information instantaneously through that collective membrane.

So you’re aware that you’re communicating with me through Phil?


Ok, so, for you, how did this initiation of this communication begin? How are you aware that this was starting to take place, this conversation?

Um, uh, Phil more or less, this is extremely weird to explain (laughter). Phil more or less traveled to M1 and took the body of me, Charlie, and he still technically occupies my body at the same time as me. Which, I don’t, I don’t know how to reconcile that with, I don’t know how to explain that.

Is that for just this experience or has he had more experience in the body of you, Charlie, other than this time?

It’s, it’s within the body. He hasn’t even met Charlie, as far as, yeah, he hasn’t ever met Charlie. So they don’t even know each other, I am pretty sure –

To be continued . . .


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