Session 1: Part 2

Facilitated by Suzanne Spooner, July 2015.

Part 2: The Conversation Continues

Tell us, what have you heard?

I’ve heard that one person after a disaster that has nothing to do with any of your doings, can suddenly try and tell the peoples that- I’m sorry, I am having a very hard time communicating in your language because (laughter) your language is extremely dense, like, it’s, I mean . . .

(laugh) Right, I have heard this before.

It doesn’t roll of the tongue, it’s ummm . . .

You’re doing a great job, by the way.

(laugh) Really, cause I feel like I’m failing you, I feel like I’m not describing things in your language even properly.

So, this one person did what, that you were sharing with me. There was a natural disaster or something?

Oh yes, so, in your country I believe or at least in the area where you live, there’s a lot of times a disaster and someone will rise up, especially, its in the South of your nation isn’t it, like the Southeast. The people will rise up, an old man say, and he’ll proclaim that it was the cosmos and that they all have to do something in the name of the cosmos but it never lines up exactly with what needs to be done on your actual planet in order for things to become more stable and for things to become more balanced.

What else have you heard about what’s happening on Earth?

(laughter) I mean, the stuff about the Northern Hemisphere is pretty funny, we make jokes about it here, um, because we’ve never heard about a planet that has been given so many chances and has just screwed up royally (laugh) multiple times. And you guys have been whitewashed, I mean literally your waters have risen to take over lands just because the council just was so fed up in your area, as I understand. I remember some stories of people, friends that I have, that tell me about your planet and how the Northern Hemisphere had everything and they kept telling the rest of the world that they belonged to the North. Which A, doesn’t make any sense to us because as we understand it, the North is completely different from the South and there’s, I mean, great distances and stuff like that. As far as we understand, your species has not transcended space and time like we have, so the rat race for the land is extremely silly to us. You guys have plenty of it (laugh). And obviously we see the fighting, we saw the atomic weapons used and . . .

What did you guys think of that?

Ummm, we’ve seen it before. We knew what was going to happen, especially me and my friends because of our –

Energy background?

Well, yeah, I mean, our intellectual capacities. We know what has happened to other planets that (laughter) have done such things and  its rather chaotic for Earthlings because from your point of view or from, well, at least your point of view we understand that you guys don’t seem to be in connection or communication even with your council. Everyone else is, mostly, in communication with their councils and is pretty aware of what the heck their council wants them to do and what also not to do. To remain balanced and stray away from things that they know . . .

So why is it that Earth is so isolated from their council?

Hmmmm, there is one troubling species in the corner of your universe. We’ll call it that because you can actually travel between universes, there’s not one. It’s not one, they do bounce against, literally, one another. It’s an infinite multiverse and to you its frivolous because as you understand it, I believe you guys on Earth cannot comprehend beyond our single universe because you have not mapped that yet. So it’s kind of weird to imagine that there would be another one but there is and you guys are right on track. In terms of your corner of this particular universe, as I understand it, there is a species that you guys are aware of already that has caused trouble in the past and are still causing trouble on your surface.

And what species would you be referring to?

The Reptilians. They’re a, I mean, we use the word lizard and that is, as far as I know, actually from our planet because I think we are one of the first ones to interact with these guys.


On Kylox?

Yeah, some of these Reptilians. They are, I mean they’re fiercely loyal to their own kind but they don’t care about causing chaos. And they are really, really advanced in what we call fog weapons systems. You guys are not familiar with this yet but you will be.

What is fog weapons systems?

So, actually you can saturate an atmosphere with particles or with energy itself, depending on who is in charge and what they want to do with the surface and who is on the surface. And the Reptilians are particularly adept at tuning their weapons systems. This I know because I studied weapons systems, on Kylox actually. That’s where my formal training actually came in. As far as I know, I was being prepped before a potential invasion by the Reptilians of our home planet, but it was a sub-branch of the Reptilians, I don’t know their name. They are more gray though, than green, as you would know it. They’re basically the cousins of the larger race. There is a green one and I can keep using the colors, that . . . I am familiar with some English and I am not really sure how much of that is what is being channeled through Phil or if it is something that I’ve picked up as well. So we will just say it’s a little bit of both.

It sounds very English, you’re doing very well.


Matter of fact, do you think you could demonstrate a little bit of your own language through him?

Hmmm, ummm, (long pause) it’s very hard to pronounce for him. He is really trying his best.

If it’s too much its no problem.

Umm, the problem with our language is it’s a lot of consonants together, so for him, he wants to enunciate for you and (laugh) our language, umm, we’ve been told already (laugh) we should try and easen up on our language (laughter).

(laugh) Ok.

We need to make it a little easier for outsiders who meet us because they cannot . . . so I, ah, I actually have studied English to a degree but not as much to converse.

He has a great study of the Earth languages.



Yes and I think that’s because he is, it’s hard to say, to be honest. I don’t feel like I know Phil. Umm, so I’m really sorry I can’t answer more questions about him right now. I might be able to if you ask me some more questions umm, but I don’t, I don’t know too much about him right now.

Ok, well, that’s ok. We want to get to know you a little bit better. You had mentioned, was it the Ministry of Science?


Ok, tell us about the Ministry of Science.

So that’s just an aggregate term. I am sure that in your society it would be considered rather silly to call it that but, we just use it as an all-encompassing term. It includes everything from mathematics to I mean, the study of kinetics in all of its forms. Whether it is a military application or whether it is a civilian application. And we don’t take the time to first set out on a project that we distinguish as military or civilian, we just set out on a project and when we see its applications we hand it over immediately and we give a written report as to our suggestions, which are taken very, very seriously by our government because of the tests we passed to get to where we are today.

What were those tests like for you?

Oh, they were grueling! Very grueling, I mean, I had to survive, like, I mean in a suit, on the surface for 3 days. Much like some of your military personal do strenuous tests here on this planet. It’s not unlike that, it’s you know, try and survive, make a shelter, make sense of the storms, try to predict storms. That’s something we try to do to help our home planet better make sense of our weather systems and the problem with weather systems is that they are ever evolving. We also made the mistake of messing with our weather systems and, unfortunately, they are tainted to a degree but they’re still in shape. And they’re still revolving around our planet but they are not what they once were. We have a much thinner atmosphere and we’ve had to, well, we didn’t have to but we did, we chose to. We chose to fill our atmosphere with certain particles; it was actually gold, as far as I know. And that helps keep away some of the deadly radiation that we don’t want. It helps, cause, I mean, the Sun in our area, in our solar system, is very bright. It is, I mean it is a white star. It’s huge.

So it is a different Sun than it is in the Earth solar system?

Yeah, it’s bigger. And we’re not as close, I guess you could say, as you are to yours. But we’re by no means cold. It’s a very temperate climate for the most part on our planet.

An are you talking about the – ?

The Kylox.

Kylox, OK.

The M1, the research planet, where the laboratory is, the winds get so volatile and that’s because we blew away the atmosphere trying to create that energy system. We were trying to create an entire energy system out of a terrestrial object, not unlike your moon. And we thought it would be a perfect way to, you know, to (sigh) decrease the dependency on energy systems we had to keep getting on our home planet, on Kylox. And so we were very interested in zero-point energy systems, especially to the point where our atmosphere on Kylox started to, more or less, disintegrate.

Wow, so that was a big deal.

Yeah, I mean, for a long time people were coming up with designs for like gas-mask suits and talking about how we were going to have to live that way but it’s not the case, we were able to make sense of things. There are skyscrapers and cities and, I mean, most of the time people love being outdoors. They love being around the trees, they’re tropical, you might mistake them for palm trees. And they, especially in the capital city, umm (long pause) yeah Mechrisnek, uh, Mechrisnek is, is a big city (laugh) and it’s –

Can you spell that?

Umm, M-E-C-H, Oh my gosh, your language is tough, R-I and then it goes S-N-E-K.

Ok, thank you, Mechrisnek.

And the tower, our tallest building in Mechrisnek, is not unlike your, the new tower that was built in, umm, the big deserts where all the wars are happening.


Yes, yup.


In Dubai, ok, interesting. Ok, so M1 is research planet where you are experimenting with different energy systems and experimentations?

Yeah, there’s no experimentation on living things. It’s all, as I said Nikola Tesla, that name you’ll be familiar with, it’s all in relation to him. So he is not originally from Earth. He came to impart knowledge, not only in the center part, I believe you call it Europe, but also when he moved across the water. He was there to impart knowledge on your Northern Hemisphere and your Northern Hemisphere refused his knowledge. And unfortunately the people in control reserved the –

Ok, cause I was going to say there are a lot of people that are really wanting that.

Absolutely, yeah, it’s the people that are in control. See the thing is about our planet, we have democracy just like you guys but there is more of a sense of what needs to be done in the collective priority sense. It’s really hard to come up with a term in English to describe what we do. Because first it’s dispersed unconsciously at a collective level amongst all of our peoples, these ideas and these values. And it’s not as you might think, it’s not dictatorial, it’s not brainwashing. Our planet above all seeks balance, as I had mentioned before, and that is the precursor to success and progress. So without the fundamentals of balance in place, and without your emotions in check, you’re liable to experience destruction and chaos of a type that, it is irreconcilable at a certain point. And your society is going to come to that realization very soon.

So what is going to cause that realization, do you see?

Again I see Antarctica playing a very big role in the future and it has to do with the fact that the water, as I know it, is rising so the cities where a lot of your people dwell now aren’t going to be around soon. And, like I said, that’s sad and I know many of you would want to cry, but it’s unfortunately your mistake.

So is that something you see happening in a quick time frame or is it a gradual thing?

Unfortunately it’s going to be a very gradual, but it’s going to be very constant. And I’m really, really sorry to report this to you and your species if you weren’t aware of this. But in terms of what needs to be done to make sure your species does carry on and that Earth does carry on, the council decided instead of letting the waters take over all the lands again, they’re going to give the Southern Hemisphere a shot. And the reason why, I think, they’ve done this is because you guys have the ability now to traverse your planet. So you can actually get some of the minds that do matter and are thinking, you know, at a collective Earthly level as to what can be done and what should be done and how to do it properly and ethically. They can get to the others that are being given, the individuals and the chances and the intellectual capacities really, even though they are poorer, lacking in natural resources, they are ravaged by, you know, conflict and even war in some places. We are genuinely confused on our planet why your species is fighting over desert (laugh) because we have encountered deserts too and as far as we know there is not much there for us. I mean nobody lives in our deserts.

I think it is more for the fossil fuels because we haven’t evolved enough to use something beyond fossil fuels, would that make sense?

Hmmm, OK, absolutely.

Kind of stupid (laughter).

It’s understandable but in the scheme of things it is understandable what happened. That fog weapons system is totally obfuscating the average persons ability even, to – you call them days and I’m really confused by this term because we don’t have this term on our planet, we don’t have the concept of a day on our planet. We have ummm –

Do you keep time?

We do keep track of time, yup, but we don’t like, it’s not like a rigid like, umm, gosh, time is, well we experience time differently than you guys. It takes longer for the sun to actually go around our planet, so, at times we are experiencing more sunlight and at times we are experiencing like pitch black. So cities have definitely flourished for a reason on our, on Kylox, but our species overall is, as far as I understand, it’s you know, of white, almost translucent skin because of our need to adapt to the extreme darkness. Because we have such a long rotational period.

Tell me more about what you know about the councils?

(laugh) They are extremely equipped. So what I mean by that is they can influence your planet at an energetic level. But when a fog weapons system is utilized or deployed, like it is on your planet, there is almost nothing that they can do except for continue to try to bombard the surface with their thoughts and beliefs. So they do that in an intense way and this is one of the only places, as far as I ever heard, where the council does it this way in the universe that we reside in. They will choose individuals to either be born or, I mean, worse for the individuals that are not born this way, they just receive a bunch of information. And a lot of times they don’t know what to do with it. A lot of times they don’t even do anything with it. But that’s the council trying to break the first phase of that fog weapons system deployed by the Reptilians. The Reptilians did that on purpose to, I mean, to obliterate, you know, critical thought but also the ability to recognize that there is a council that does oversee your planet and that area of the solar system. Because there’s councils that are close to you, as far as I can tell. But they don’t, I mean there is an Earth specific one because of how much is going on in your area.

And, you know, we’re interested in your planet. We have books on your planet. But I think it has been about 200 years in your time since we visited or anybody’s picked up any more knowledge and like written it, I don’t know, written it down or published it. Because it’s talked about but it takes a while for some reason, for us to, oh, it’s because we don’t, we don’t cut trees down. We don’t like to do that, so to make like writing possible, it actually is a form of energy and that was another part of the M1 laboratories. It’s a pretty big complex that I’m talking about on this terrestrial object. These facilities are designed to help Kylox in a lot of ways. And so it’s very important that we do that, boy (sigh) because, gosh, English is so difficult (sigh). It’s important that we publish our information because obviously we want to share that but we had to actually – in opposite of your species, we actually did the, as far as I know, we did the reverse. Your species believes that it wrote down things first and then it’s capable of transmitting communications from brain to brain. We do that automatically, so that’s our default, uh (pause) I don’t know, primary mode of communication. And we easily disseminate. And it’s not an annoying thing. It’s not like “oh, ding!” you know, “you got a new message from the government” in your head. It’s not like that. It’s imbued in our electro-signaling.


So, kind of like an internal email system?

Ehm, it’s more of a feeling that we all get. So everybody is very empathetic towards one another, so people are capable of understanding one another and where they’re coming from pretty quickly. So in terms of like, collective dreams, visions, uh, values, it’s really easy to share those with one another because it’s really easy to feel where someone else is coming from. But that was part of our training, especially for M1 (laugh). We had to control our emotions because there’s no way they were going to let us near this equipment and, I mean, like to experiment (laughter) with this stuff if we had emotions because we would just get frustrated.

So, then, because you can feel and understand what people are wanting to do, does that mean you can create a lot faster and easier?

We can create some things much faster it seems, but, like, our logistics originally were very poor. And our value system did get in the way, but because of the demand, you know, for communication and the lack of devices, we had to create something. And so there was always a lot of talking between peoples and lots of feeling. Feeling of, like, one another’s, not physically feeling but like, you’re sitting in the room paying attention to one another. And that is of the utmost importance in our society. It’s better to stand there for 30 minutes, in our society, even if somebody’s not done talking because you don’t want to disrupt the communications. So in that time, it looks like we’re not doing anything but we’re actually processing a lot of stuff and we’re actually thinking about a lot of things. And we’re actually just doing other things because that’s how we get to communicate. We get to receive really awesome information instantaneously through that collective membrane.

So you’re aware that you’re communicating with me through Phil?


Ok, so, for you, how did this initiation of this communication begin? How are you aware that this was starting to take place, this conversation?

Um, uh, Phil more or less, this is extremely weird to explain (laughter). Phil more or less traveled to M1 and took the body of me, Charlie, and he still technically occupies my body at the same time as me. Which, I don’t, I don’t know how to reconcile that with, I don’t know how to explain that.

Is that for just this experience or has he had more experience in the body of you, Charlie, other than this time?

It’s, it’s within the body. He hasn’t even met Charlie, as far as, yeah, he hasn’t ever met Charlie. So they don’t even know each other, I am pretty sure –

To be continued . . .


Session 1: Part 1

Facilitated by Suzanne Spooner, July 2015.

Part 1: A Conversation with an Alien Scientist

Suzanne: What’s the very first thing that you notice?

Phil: There is an 8-sided . . . opening. And it’s metal. And there’s a ball suspended or an orb suspended in the middle . . . without, like, any propulsion . . . or any gravity or anything holding it. It is just suspended via energy in the middle of this metal thing. And with frequency changes it can dribble in the air.

Ok and what causes the frequency changes do you think?

Um, individuals. They can either manipulate it with a machine. This particular thing I am looking at is a machine in a laboratory.

And as you look around the laboratory what else do you notice about it?

I see a deck with glass where there are some gentleman and looks like an older man. Now I am in the lab. He has white hair. They are wearing the traditional lab coats but they are wearing, in particular the older of the three, the two others have black hair and black glasses on. But the other one actually is wearing regular bifocals but has this, like night vision goggles almost, where you flip them down over your head. It’s nothing I’ve ever seen.

Ok, do you know what he uses those for?

No, I mean, looking at something more clearly but, it seems, it’s definitely something from a different planet or from the future.

Ok, good, you are doing great. Now I want you to bring your focus onto yourself in that place. I want you to look down and see if you can see your feet.


And anything on your feet?

Yes, I am wearing black dress shoes. And I am wearing black dress pants and I am also wearing a black overcoat, or I’m sorry a white over coat, like one of the gentleman up in the deck. I have an ID card pinned to my pen opening on my shirt.

What does that ID card say, can you read it?

Ummm, Charlie.

Ok. And do you have anything in your hands?

No, not at the moment. It seems like maybe there is a tool in my left hand, either some glasses. Yeah, it’s glasses.

OK, like glasses that you’d look out of?

Yeah, yeah.

Very good, and any jewelry or ornamentation on the body besides the name tag?

Um, yeah, I’m also wearing a silver ring on my left hand.

And as you look at that, does it have any significance or design to it?

It’s just round, it looks very similar to wedding rings that people would wear today.

Ok, very good. Anything that you are wearing on your head?


So the body feels male or female?

I feel like a male, umm, definitely male. I have hair but I cannot see at all what color it is, it feels dark. Um (pause) . . . just picking up noise in the laboratory. I heard some people speaking for a second but I could not make out what they were saying. There’s a lot of noise in this place (laughter). There’s a giant generator to my left and it’s spinning. I mean, it’s clearly their power source; the propulsion system for experiments in the laboratory. But they’re of a, the atmosphere’s definitely of an energy-like type experiments. Like experimenting on energy systems; energy systems that don’t exist on earth as you would understand it. It is definitely along the lines of the individual you would know as Nikola Tesla.

Nikola tesla

OK, very good. And so what do you do? How do you spend your day?

I am testing energy systems to better understand how objects interact with one another in relation to physical constraints and physical realities. Such as drag and gravity and other physical considerations that we would take into account with regard to moving objects through space and measuring it with time.

Ok, now I want you to focus on those three older men for a moment. Is there anything about any of them that stands out to you?

Yes. The individual, the gentleman with the white hair is very commandeering and has a very authoritarian presence. He is the Commandant of the laboratory. And he has been here for a while. And he is actually the individual that has the most knowledge and has known people that actually created the theories behind what we are testing. He is here to see to it that we implement them in the laboratory correctly. And we answer to him, in particular the two that are his deckhands. I have more autonomy as an individual working in the lab below, and on the equipment monitoring them and being around them. It is not any difficulty for me to be around the equipment because I have not only passed tests that demonstrate I can handle the experiments and the radiation that’s being put out, but also, you know, the turbulence that we are experiencing, in the experiments themselves; the failed ones and the good ones, the ones that we consider results driven or based. I ultimately am allowed to be down there because I have a genetic predisposition to these realities, these constraints, these conditions. It’s not unlike Earth but it’s certainly different than Earth. It’s a different level of gravity, it’s a different level in terms of the density of the atmosphere, in terms of what molecules are primarily present and predominantly present, as compared to Earth. Even though you would completely mistake us for humans on Earth. And we are completely, you know, white skinned, you would consider us Caucasians. And all of the individuals I work with are Caucasian. But the two gentlemen that are answering to the Commandant right now are dark haired, very dark haired, I would say jet black. And, again, I will reiterate they’re wearing black sunglasses, which not only shield them from some of the experiments we are conducting here but it also is a sign of, it’s a type of insignia if you will. The Matrix film you might be familiar with, they are, these individuals with the black glasses are of that type. They are of an authority type. They are here to learn from the Commandant but they are also here to inspect the facility on behalf of . . . on behalf of something else.

And do you know where they come from or what or whom they are inspecting it on behalf of?

They are inspecting it on behalf of the powers that be, it is unclear to me right now because this is not a transparent society. These individuals have been sent by the director of, I mean, we could say science. And they do these routine checks. They show up and the Commandant routinely has to bring in these individuals and explain to them our progress, explain to them our failures, explain to them where we are headed with the experiments. Because we do have a degree of autonomy over what we do want to experiment on exactly. Umm . . . I was just handed some papers actually, umm . . .

What are those papers?

There’s actually a lot of them, so . . . they look like new orders and there’s also plans for a new energy system itself, to be built in our facility or a new one.

And what do you think about that new energy system as you look over the new plans?

It’s peculiar because it’s very rigid, it does not match up with any of our beliefs here in this laboratory about how energy works and how we can manipulate time and space. It reminds Phil of a T or an I-beam from the skyscrapers that were built in New York in the 20s and 30s of the 20th century.

Ok. Where did those plans come from?

They were just handed to me. Quite honestly there was just a hand that came up through this little hole in the ground, in the floor, it just opened and they were there and I grabbed them (laughter).

(laughter) That’s pretty efficient, isn’t it? Here’s a new energy system, take a look at this!

Yeah, but no word or anything from the individual, just a hand and here you go (laugh).

Ok, and the Commandant, is he aware of what just got handed to you?

He is aware but he doesn’t seem to be very concerned at the moment except with addressing the two individuals that he is talking with on the deck. He looked down and noticed right away, instantaneously, that I was looking at something and I could sense his eyes on me. He seems to be able to use those black fold over, described as night vision goggles, as actual goggles of a certain type but he can zoom in incredibly. He can see what is on the pages of the paper even though he is like 2 or 3 stories above me.

Ok and so what is your role or capacity in overseeing others or are there others overseeing you in that laboratory? Do you have a special role or are you one of a group that tries to work together?

I am definitely part of a group. We are here to implement what we believe is- and as individuals we have a great degree of freedom in the laboratory itself. This society believes that specialists in their field do have the capacity to make good decisions that are ethical. But at the same time make inventions and make energy systems that do provide a lasting source of energy that doesn’t require a constant source of fuel. We’re using zero point energy systems in this laboratory. The giant generator that is helping with the energy system, the Equitron is what we call it, with the ball suspended in the air. And then you can dribble given the different frequency allocations and changes. It’s all powered by zero-point energy systems. Thus we don’t need but a short bit of fuel to get the system going initially. But this laboratory has never been shut down and we face no external threats. We are simply, at this point, separated from the energy grid. But there is not an energy grid as you would know in your country or your civilization. It is absolutely of the type of energy that you call magic or many would call magic today.

What happens to the energy systems that you test that work?

Ultimately they are used for the civilian population.

On Earth or other places?

This is actually not Earth. Uh, we are a separate entity.

Are you like a planet or a ship?

We are on a planet. It is a terrestrial object but it was, it has been in your world man-made, in those words. In many ways it has been man-made. It’s been changed and altered. It is a very, very, very old terrestrial object. It’s not, it’s nowhere near the size of Earth. This is an area where we are testing energy systems and experimenting with energy systems. And there is actually a teleportation grounds or facility that’s separate and it’s run by MOT, you know, the Ministry of Transportation.

The who?

The Ministry of Transportation, MOT. We call it MOT. But that can bring you back to the home planet. This is where our civilization has ultimately determined is the best testing grounds for energy systems but also it is an extreme environment. So the extremes of high and low allow for some pretty awesome results and also some pretty awesome or interesting and sometimes, at times confounding, conditions, or ah . . .

What are some of those?

Oh, I mean, the weather is apt to change within a single moment. We can have gusts of what you would consider hundreds of miles per hour winds; it would be similar to your Antarctica. But the ground itself, as we understand it, it appears red or orange. And the facility is actually an elevated facility. It’s not appropriate to build these facilities on this planet, or this terrestrial object, on the ground or into the ground because the ground is corrosive. So we actually have to install specific types of platforms, foundations, in order to make sure it does not eat away at the physical building itself. So this terrestrial object is very intense. It takes a number of physical tests that are very difficult to pass in our civilization to get to this position. It is not an intellectual thing only. It’s a matter of intellectual commitment and, you know, vision and dreams but all in all you have to have a genetic predisposition and a physical toughness as well to yourself.

A genetic predisposition to survive the elements?

Yes. There are certain people that at a cellular level can actually- their electro-signaling is governed by something else besides the brain or heart. You might understand it as something in the brain, but we understand it as something that is separate from the brain, it’s just near the brain or the area where our governing facilities, or whatever, are made. And ultimately, that is what determines someone’s ability to do something or handle something or to be able to contribute this or there. Some of the words I am coming up with in my head, it’s starting to overlap with English, um, and so it almost wants to take over for English.

Is it like you are a physical being?

Absolutely, you would think of me as a humanoid. But I am much taller, even than your average humans today. I am roughly 7ft tall.

And other than that you look very human-like?

Yes, I have longer limbs and I am a taller entity. I am just a bigger entity overall than anything that walks this planet here, Earth.

And so, when you are there is that a place you live all of your life or do you go back and forth through the MOT back to the home planet?

We do, it is pretty strenuous. We don’t have much of a family life here as laboratorians. We signed up for this gig because we have the intellectual abilities but also the dream and the vision to see this become reality or to see our dreams and visions become realities. And we ultimately know that we could come back to our planet, which is known as Kylox, K-Y-L-O-X. It is extremely far from Earth.

And you get there through the Ministry of Transportation?

Well, at least to the terrestrial object where we do the experiments, that’s separate from Kylox. Kylox is where the civilian population resides for the most part. We have colonized 3 or 4, we are in the process of a 4th one at the moment, process of colonizing a 4th terrestrial object. And the reason why I keep using this term terrestrial object is because your civilization is familiar with the term planet as a word to describe any sort of large, round, piece of material. Mass, energy, that is congregated and aggregated in a dense, very, very dense, extremely dense sense. And so what we are talking about with this terrestrial object that I work on as part of this laboratory, part of the Ministry of Science, is absolutely part stardust, if you will (laughter). But it has also been experimented with, so there’s lots of metalloid objects. There is nothing that exists in this area except for the moon. Your moon is inhabited internally, just as your earth is internally inhabited. You might know it as the hollow-planet theory. And that is true of every single planet or terrestrial object. You can enter through the north and south, as long as the properties of the planet allow for that. Now if there is something that is pure rock and it has no atmosphere, well than more often than not you are just going to be able to land on the surface and you’re not going to be able to grow much, you’re not going to be able to do much without a vacuum like facility built on it’s surface. And a lot times it is going to corrode through your initial investments, your initial infrastructure. That was the price that we paid with this particular terrestrial object that I do experiments on and that’s why our civilization has allowed for this because we would not allow for experimentation on other planets or terrestrial objects. And we distinguish between the terms terrestrial object and planet so that we can humanize and we can better manage the stability and our impact moreover, our impact on the terrestrial object.

So if I understand it, a planet in your consideration is more dense compared to a terrestrial object which can be more . . .

It can be manipulated by man such that, there is so much . . . like for this particular object that I am standing on in the laboratory, there is so much metal inside of the terrestrial object itself that you would consider it hollowed out completely, almost.

Ok, and so what activity goes on inside of the hollow area of the terrestrial object you’re on?

It’s very interesting you ask that! Because, our civilization years ago, at least over 1000 years in your time, probably closer to 2000 years in your time, it tried to turn the entire planet, which it was back then, into an energy system. And so it was split North and South, much like your equator there’s North and South Hemispheres. And so there were interchangeable parts of metal that would shift much like one of your clocks might or some of your newer television or movies gives you the impression of shifting, you know, metal, but in an amorphous way. And so what it’s doing is, it is an interchangeable system of locks and mechanisms that allows for the North to turn, the Northern Hemisphere of the terrestrial object to turn internally counterclockwise to the Southern Hemisphere. And the idea behind this was we were trying to create a torroidal landscape for the entire terrestrial object, such that we could allow for an atmosphere to become present. So we could potentially grow food or we could have permanent residence on that object.

Ok, very good, thank you very much for that. And so what is your understanding about what goes on in the hollow part of the Earth?


(pause, sigh) It is governed by a particular civilization that you guys are familiar with, an ancient species. They are absolutely committed to peace on your earth but they are quintessentially opposed to the American sense of progress and freedom. So where people in your society believe that people should have the freedom to gain luxuries as they so choose, at their convenience, the ancient species believes that balance of everything is priority uno. It cannot get any more paramount than that because without balance, without . . . they have a stronger sense and understanding of what balance means than our civilization even does. We’re not even that balanced, in my words. I am increasingly impressed by their ability to remain undetected by your species. They have a huge center and I do know this much, that your governments and many, many of your scientists that are well known, know of the ancient species and where their facilities are, both underwater and on land and it has to do with Antarctica. And Chile, Chile makes sense, the Kundalini; some people are talking about this phrase on your planet these days. That’s just another term for the collective unconscious, like, identity of the planet itself. The species is shifting down toward that area. So basically your planet (laughter), the Northern Hemisphere, it had its chance and as we understand your planet the Northern Hemisphere messed up and the Southern Hemisphere is getting a chance now, a whack at the constraints that are holding your species back. And so they have chosen to relocate altogether.

Ok (laughter) all right, understood, thank you. And is there a name to your terrestrial object that you are on?

We just call it M1, um, I am not really sure why actually. No, I’m sure, it was actually, we use this term Metro-pole to describe new colonies at this point. So it’s like a hub and spoke system, as you would understand in 2D. We have our larger Kylox and then we have, like I said, colonized formally 3 terrestrial objects or planets. Like I said the planet term applies still because we have not, we have not invoked our technology to a point where it has consumed the entire terrestrial object. But overall, you can think of our system as a metro-pole because of our ability to travel so quickly between our objects that we do live on and work on. For example the place that I do work on, M1, and then where I travel home to, Kylox, for extended stays, but there are more resting phases. And the other colonizations have been military conquests of certain types. Only in one, I would say one and a half instances have we fought for the reclamation of or the claim of those objects. We’re not particularly interested in warring with others but we are not opposed to it if we have to. Our society itself is extremely understanding of one another. And people are more likely to try to actually ask and understand what the heck you are talking about (laughter) and how you’re feeling before they react emotionally in terms of anger or, I don’t know, depression. It’s not as instant as it is on your planet with many of your species, especially these days. Your species doesn’t have a sense of boundaries at all, especially in the Northern Hemisphere. Which it claims to in its values, freedom and individual liberty, as I understand it. But it contradicts itself on the Northern side all the time and so that’s, from what I understand, why the Southern Hemisphere has been given a chance now. And it literally was given a chance, the Northern Hemisphere as well but it failed to capitalize on those opportunities and as I understand it, the council that governs your area wasn’t satisfied.

So what is the hope that the Southern Hemisphere will do better at?

Well, it is hopefully going to bring people together in a sense that, especially with Antarctica. That continent is going to become the most important continent, despite the fact that you’re entire species discounts it as a continent, more or less right now. I understand you guys don’t see it as a living place or a place that can support life. In due time, it will become very relevant to the future of your civilization altogether. And not in a scientific or mathematics sense, but literally in an ethical, intercultural sense. You are going to see all sorts of races, all sorts of peoples come together over the common issues they face on that continent. And that will serve as a template.


I know your planet is warming and water levels are going to take out most of your major cities. You will not, you will not be able to escape that. And it is unfortunate there is going to be great loss of life. But the rest of your species will make sense of it and they won’t over dramatize things. (laugh) I have heard things about your planet.

Tell us, what have you heard?

To be continued . . .