Session 1: Part 3

Facilitated by Suzanne Spooner, July 2015.

Part 3 – The Collective

So this isn’t like a past life or a future life of Phil?

No, this is, um, I would describe this voice as a Collective grouping.

Ok, cool, very good (laugh).

And Phil and Charlie are part of it.

Ok, well, that’s great, I’m happy to have everybody here! (laughter)

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

We strive to have communication like this so that we can learn and grow as well, so it’s always a joy to have big a party going on! (laugh)

Right! And everybody in the universe loves partying too, so (laugh).

Oh, great! Well, I’m happy to host (laughter).

Yeah! It’s just, as far as I understand, it’s just Earth that has a problem, here and there. And then, I mean, there are, your species is not wrong, there are some species that are extremely hostile out there. And some of them are watching your planet, but the primary one is the Reptilians. I’m sorry, this voice takes on a very serious tone most of the time, because the group that we represent has a very serious task in the cosmos. We’re spread out and not one of us is on the same planet.

So what is the task that you have in the cosmos with this group?

We’re here to instill change. And not force it on anybody but invite people into. We’re catalyzers.

What does that mean?

We help galvanize collectives into motion. A lot of times collectives don’t know what to do.

Like within the cosmos?

Yeah, they don’t know what to do because there actually is a prevailing individual ethos for each soul that has like, you would call it an ego I guess. I’ve heard about this, ego, id, and whatnot and Freud, I know the name. And I’m pretty sure all that comes from him, these words. But there are egos in the universe beyond Earth. There are even egos on the Councils sometimes. And they’re really annoying, in my opinion (laughter). It’s a very inappropriate place to have an ego because you’ve been given such a position of authority but also a position of power really. I mean, you can really, really, really influence a whole species or many species. And . . . that is a huge task.

So from your perspective give us, kind of like, what’s coming to Earth? What’s happening with all the changes please? And don’t hold back, we want to hear.

Well, there are many, many, many people on your planet. There are too many, way too many. And they’re all moving to the same places. You call them cities or urban, I think. It’s not going to work out. And part of the rising sea levels, part of it is your species fault but part of it’s not. Part of it is the cosmos correcting what you guys could not do and that was control your population. Because controlling populations can often be violent and your species is predominantly a-violent when it comes to that topic, or non-violent. There are a couple of exceptions. And they are going to experience massive demographic crises within your lifetime. And one of those is, I think you call it China (sigh). China in particular is going to experience; pretty much all of the major countries, empires, powers, if you will, because what you have on your planet right now is no longer countries, you have networks of countries that are working in coordination with one another. Phil knows this as 1984, the book by George Orwell. And (pause) that is not working out. Despite the fact that individual egos have transcended themselves to a degree on your planet. They can’t seem to get past the idea that imaginary boundaries don’t matter, they’re literally imaginary.

And they’re sacrificing not only themselves through their labor, when they don’t have to at all. There is absolutely no need for the type of work most of them are doing on the surface of the planet. It is absolutely, it has no, it serves no good, it serves no progress, it serves nothing in the end. It doesn’t promote anything in the individual, it doesn’t even promote anything in society. That bridge those people worked on, the bridge is going to fall apart before- it literally matters so much because of what they bring. The workers, for example, will build a bridge on your planet. If they are not committed to the task of that bridge staying up then that bridge will fall. And that bridge will fall before its time, before their plans estimate it will. And it’s not safe to utilize infrastructure when you don’t have the energy imbued in it. I mean the intentions, the proper intentions of balance and I don’t mean physics, I mean quite literally energy balance. Because, you know, we’ve seen what happened, Phil has seen what happened, when egos prevailed on Earth. And that is exactly the type and at this point, there are collective egos, which is a complete oxymoron to Phil. But they exist on Earth and they’re prevailing right now. And there is a massive shift in the peoples. But the problem is this, the people that do understand what is going on and what needs to be done are getting further and further and further away, not only intellectually, but physically. Quite literally, the individuals that see and know what must happen they cannot handle being around the others. It literally makes them sick, it confounds their reason, it confounds their intellectual abilities, it confounds their empathy, it confounds their goals, their abilities to get stuff done. It confounds their entire life and progress in general.

So what do you see the future of Earth being like?

Unfortunately, between those two populations, the distance is getting so far that we’re going to reach a point very soon where those two populations are not even going to understand one another when they’re even talking about the same subject, topic, or even speaking in the same language. They’re going to be at such a different energetic vibration and frequency, as you know it, that some of the lower frequency beings won’t even recognize the higher frequency beings any more. They will just literally disappear before your eyes. And they will appear, if they do at all, as light or as something that is incessantly moving.

So, is this what we call the two Earths?


Ok, so give me your understanding of that.

Nothing like this has ever been done in the universe, as far as I have ever heard. Nothing like this on Kylox, nothing on M1 has ever even been talked about. So we’re all very excited to see what is going to happen. My understanding, you know, as, well as Charlie, tapping into Charlie’s understanding. Charlie understands this: that there’s going to be, more or less, two separate populations that won’t even see each other at a point.

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Will that happen in my lifetime?

No (pause), it’s going to start happening in your lifetime. Your population is going to start talking about people literally disappearing. So like, it may already be in your stories, especially about what your species calls drug abuse. We call it chemicals because everything is a chemical in this universe. There are chemicals that can hurt you, there are chemicals that can help you. And we already have recognized that there are extremely capable beings on your planet. The problem is that fog system, that weapons system deployed by the Reptilians. Even when chemicals are used, they help the individual but they don’t help the collective, yet. And we’re really hopeful that your species is going to permit that to happen so that the collective can utilize some of these chemicals to their benefit but otherwise . . . it’s very interesting (laugh) your planet altogether. Phil is ultimately very confused (sigh) and I’m not sure what I can do for Phil in terms of Earth and such because of what is in the way. It doesn’t, the weapons system, that’s outside my control, that is something that The Council that governs the area is responsible for. Phil is going to keep pushing forward and forward and forward and that’s what he knows how to do, what this Collective Voice knows how to do. It knows how to, it catalyzes individuals and collectives ultimately because it has to. There are quite literally black and white forces in this universe, we’ve reached that threshold. And you eventually have to pick a side. And so, as a catalyzer, you know, as a Collective Voice you have to pick a side coming into this universe. Otherwise there is no paradigm, there is no foundation upon which you can act and you can galvanize.

So is that part of what everybody is learning about is picking sides and choosing your paradigm?

Absolutely, yes. And it’s not something all of your species wants to do because your species thinks that it has to remain open-minded to the individuals that are going to, I mean, sooner or later disappear in the vision of the others altogether. But like I was saying, some of these individuals that have utilized chemicals, the stories as I know it, they’ve just walked off and disappeared. Well, they didn’t just walk of and disappear, they reached a resonant frequency that ultimately led them to vibrate so quickly that you can’t see them because that doesn’t allow, your Earth doesn’t allow for that to exist.

So, what chemicals cause them to do that?

Well, I think that you’re already familiar with one of them, it is sedating and stulting. Stultifying, is that a word that you guys use?

I’ve not heard it.

Stultifying, it literally stops and halts the progression of the intellect and the cognition and therefore the emotions and the entire being. And it affects the brain. Your planet is awash with, unfortunately, it’s awash with many, many chemicals that are, sedating and uplifting and energizing people. But not in the holistic sense. And that’s what we need, that’s what this Collective group needs. In order to create proper catalysts, you cannot do that without (sigh), you cannot do that without cooperation from the collective ethos. And if the collective ethos isn’t willing to open its mind and its realm to the individual ethos, then the collective ethos can never change. Unfortunately though, the complicating part about your planet, Earth itself, is the weapons system has been implemented after, the key is after, individuals took power that weren’t supposed to have taken power. And The Council knows about those individuals but they can’t take them out. That’s one of the restraints The Council has, The Council is not God. It cannot take life, like the Source can. That is the only thing in this entire multi-verse that can do that.

So then is Source concerned about that exact thing? Is it going to do anything to assist Earth with that or is really just going to let everything play out?

Well, like its been said, The Council is giving Earth another shot with the Southern Hemisphere. (pause) It really, really comes down to that most Southern continent, Antarctica, and what is done there. If humanity does not learn the lessons from Antarctica and what the people down there are doing and how they’re doing it, then the waters will rise again. And they will swallow the entire, they will swallow most of the land, the habitable human areas.

So those activities in the communities in Antarctica that you are speaking about, are those already in place right now?


And do most people know about that? Does it have anything to do with the Hollow Earth?

No, most people don’t know about it. It does have something to do with the Hollow Earth. Many of the scientists, if not all of them, in Antarctica are aware of where the ancient species are based.

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Is that why we can’t fly over the Poles?



It is a darn shame but unfortunately because of the fog weapons system we don’t know who would take advantage of those. So I am pretty sure that The Council set up agreements with the terrestrial beings saying you know, you can stick around. The Council does have control of the energy systems, the toroidal energy field of earth. They can control frequencies if they so choose but they can’t change the people, that’s the main issue.

Free will?

Right. They really want to, but they can’t and they know they can’t. And so they are really, really, really annoy- I mean, every time they meet it’s the same discussion “Who can we pick to try to reach on the surface?”

So they infuse those thoughts into that person to help bring about the change?

Right, but there’s no guarantee. It’s like, infusion is the perfect word because there is no guarantee that that person is going to pick up on those thoughts and run and utilize those dreams visions and ideas that they have now harnessed.

Ok, oh, so fascinating, I am so happy you came through to talk with us; it just gives us such an opportunity to grow ourselves.

Of course.

Thank you very much.

More from The Collective

About Earth

So that’s, I’m really having a hard time understanding and explaining the concept of free will on Earth because of how much is in the way and then also because of what The Council is doing. Cause The Council is giving that second chance to Earth, the Southern Hemisphere and Antarctica in particular. But the Northern Hemisphere still has so much power and influence. It has the ability to change the direction of what the Southern Hemisphere is seeking right now and in particular with Antarctica. It’s going to be a strange, extremely weird division between the two peoples.

We don’t really know how Phil can do what he does on Earth because Earth is so difficult. The weapons system, The Council not doing much, you know, the individual egos conflating, you know, collective progress. The fact that The Council, is really, really, really unforgiving and has been in the past with this planet but now it has become more tolerant because it understands what is going on a little bit more.

Phil and Charlie

Phil’s really familiar with the sun and he is very familiar with its powers and it’s potential to help him. But he senses something weird, which is what he’s feeling in this Collective voice. So as I spoke about Charlie, he’s attuned to a planet where darkness is often an issue on Kylox and the species has become attuned, even the skin, you know, has become almost translucent because of how much time they spend in darkness. Because of the sun, they have to keep that skin, in certain ways, stable. So it’s not perfect and it’s certainly not the opposite of what Phil experiences but it’s different.

Breaking Through the Fog

If he can visualize light breaking through the clouds or through the atmosphere irrespective of what he sees above him. If he sees blue skies and clouds and he thinks to himself “Oh, what a great day!” then that’s going to be a problem because he won’t receive any information that day, that is deceptive. And the Reptilians have implemented that on purpose. They have implemented days where- this is the confusing thing, there are really nice days and there are really stormy days. And wherever Phil is on Earth, the fog-weapons system, it works with the weather systems but also those who, the Reptilians in power on Earth, who mess with the weather and mess with timing of when the defenses, like the blockade is up. And so it has taken awhile for this Collective Voice to figure out when the Reptilians lift that blockade. Because they can’t keep it all along, like constantly, they have to lift it every once and awhile to add back to it. They have to rebuild their weapons system because if they didn’t it would disperse eventually.

So, you’re suggesting to him then that he could picture the white light breaking through the clouds and . . . ?

And entering his solar plexus.

Speaking about EMFs (Electro-Magnetic Frequencies)

Because of the body, the human body, it’s not prepared to handle electromagnetic frequencies, in any way, shape, or form. There’s very, very, very few EMFs on the spectrum that the human body is actually capable of surviving happily through. Something that your species is going to come to realize very soon. Because people are going to start dropping dead. Something weird is going to start happening and you’ve seen it in your movies and TV. The skin and the bone and the muscles more are literally going to, uh, it has to do with the DNA cell damage and RNA cell damage from exposure and what we call ‘bathing’, at this point, in EMFs.

So those EMFs, are they primarily through the cell phones and the computers or what?

Yeah, I mean, there are a million inventions at this point that are being implemented in, especially the cities and urban areas. Where it’s to compliment the culture of convenience, that’s all it is. People are not aware and the people that do want them are not aware of the damage that it’s doing to them even. They haven’t thought about it, they don’t care to think about it a lot of times. They don’t care to actually make changes and so we’re not seeing the collective change because of that.

Free Will

OK and he says sometimes when he’s watching movies that he’s watched before, or even maybe read books, that he feels that the content seemingly is changing. What’s going on there?

Well, in some moments he is correct, the content literally has changed. And we do that for him because it’s important that he picks up on things in certain moments. People often think that they are going out and picking up on things but the reality is- here’s a better way to explain free will, it’s when you’re on a search for something, you have a value, dream, or vision and you align with that actual vision or dream or idea even. And then it becomes you.

It becomes your reality.

So it looks as if from the outside that individuals not acting with free will but what they’re really doing is they’re serving their soul as they should be and that’s what they’re here to do.

So he asks, do we actually have free will on Earth?

Not in the sense that Earthlings think.

Oh! Ok, so tell us about that.

So, just as I explained, if you have a dream or a vision or an idea and it’s strong enough, you can link up with that dream, vision, concept, idea um (pause) on the other side, if you will. You must commit yourselves even! The saying on Earth goes you must commit your sweat, blood, and, tears to something. Well, in this case it really comes down to the cellular level and even your thoughts and the words that you use. The words that you use and the words that you want to use, even if it doesn’t come out. It’s very important that people align themselves completely with a vision or dream. So lets take the idea of equality, a concrete example, lets ground ourselves for a second. If somebody truly believes in the idea of equality and a particular type of equality then they must read, they must observe and study and evaluate and analyze all of the facets and aspects of those that they believe evoke those characteristics and then also those that seemingly do. So that they can understand the difference, and Phil can too. In order to truly make the decision for themselves so that they can meet up with that vision or idea that’s being shared. It’s out there in the cosmos it’s just waiting for you to grab it (laughter). That’s all you gotta do is reach out and grab it and commit. And Phil has committed himself to helping others on Earth. That is not a difficult thing for him to do.

Phil’s Purpose

So is that his purpose in this life?

He is here on this planet, Earth, to do a lot of things but his primary purpose is to facilitate others and to catalyze others really; to turn others into catalysts, to galvanize others. He’s not the managerial, you know, spokesman, he’s not the caretaker of society. He’s a coach, he’s a trainer, he’s an arbitrator. He’s an arbitrator between the cosmos and the individual. And he’s here to help others make sense of their terrestrial routes. He’s here to, with this Collective Voice, we are able to impact others just by infusing ideas and concepts. So his presence alone . . .

So he is able to be that arbitrator between the cosmos or you the collective voice, by listening and picking up on the cues and then assisting the individuals to understand their greatness, is that . . .

Definitely, and with Phil in particular, because it’s the one way radio system and the fog weapons system that obfuscates a lot of Earthlings abilities to contact beyond our atmosphere. So we think it’s just safer to go the route of the one-way radio, even though it’s unfortunate for him. He will continue to receive messages throughout his life and he’s (sigh, pause) um, this is difficult question to answer. He’s semi-aware of a Collective grouping that he’s from and right now he’s trying to go around on the Earth and find people that he has met and he’s trying to claim or at least fit them into the puzzle somehow. What he needs to do instead is, he just needs to live his life and there will be people that will come to him and they will cross paths and it will be obvious to him then that they are from the same soul group, the same collective.


So to have this type of experience, where he’s in hypnosis and you can come through him, what is that like for you?

It’s extremely discomforting (laugh) because I speak for a collective and right now I’m trying to speak for an individual on Earth (laughter), so it’s really confusing. And at moments Phil seems to want to break through almost because he has come to a point now where he’s understanding what’s going on, on Earth. So he’s trying unorthodox ways to communicate with the cosmos and some of it is getting through.

Ok, can I ask, do you have a message for me or any suggestions?

Ummm, (whispers to self) do I have a message for you? Ummm, I mean, definitely keep doing what you are doing. You are bringing light, no matter what you are doing. Literally, no matter what you are doing. If you are cooking food for your own daughter you are bringing light. And it’s particularly interesting you’re geographically location because you’re emanating outwards in a 360-degree, multi-longitudinal direction. I mean, in all directions, up, down, straight, sideways, North, South, East, West. I mean, it’s beautiful, what you’re doing, so please keep pushing forward. Never get dismayed! Never, ever, ever think badly about yourself. Never, ever, ever question yourself! For this is the vessel that knows best and quite literally,. You are apart of the Source, we all are. We could not be here if we weren’t a part of the source. And we don’t get to be because, as I said, the source decides what live and what dies, when and where.

About The Collective

And tell him again, very clearly, who you speak as.

We speak as a Collective Voice that transmutes information, at least to the Earthlings because we don’t have the ability to communicate two way exactly, as we do other places. And so, we are a democratic Collective Voice that represents multiple, actual individuals across the cosmos. And with Phil, it is the collective harbinger (laugh) of his existence of his soul, I mean, we are the seat of his vessel and we helped facilitate his incarnation on Earth. Without that he wouldn’t have made it here because you can’t just incarnate on Earth, you have to have something to help you.

We don’t have a name; we don’t need a name. That’s the important part of us because we are A-personal. We don’t care about the advancement of individual egos. We care about the advancement of collective egos.


Just curious, does Dolores Cannon have a message for him or us?

Hmmm, Dolores encourages us all to continue with what we are doing. And to continue trying to be who we are and trying to dig deeper. Every moment, every chance we get to dig deeper and see if there is more. Ask more questions! Ask them in a different way, come back and ask them again! Don’t stop asking questions! Don’t stop moving! Don’t stop your mind! When you do that, that’s when you stall. That’s when you start listening to your ego and your ego starts to take over and it starts to dominate the drivers seat (laugh). And ultimately the separation is going to take place organically on this planet between the 3rd dimensional Earth and the 5th dimensional Earth. And that is a reality. And everybody who can remain calm will remain calm and everybody that can’t should try to, because this is going to take awhile. It’s not going to be as quick as everybody’s thinking. It’s really not. And I’m sorry to disappoint many of you, but it’s not going to happen as quick as I predicted and as many of you took my predictions. But it is going to take place in a weeeeiiiirrrrrddddd way. (laughter) Veeerrrrryyyy confusing. You’re going to see things and Phil is going to see things, you know, people on this Earth are going to see things that they’ve never seen with the human body.

Give us an idea of what those weird ways are going to be!

(quick sigh) They’re gonna be scary in some respects because the first victims are going to be more or less the guinea pigs for the public. When they see what all this modernism has brought the Earth they will then realize that it’s not all progress. And we will all then begin to be able to finally have that discussion that we needed to have, eh, 30-40 years ago. So, I mean, there will be physical manifestations of chaos and trouble. And that divergence between the 5D and 3D people are certainly going to become more unpredictable in an everyday sense.

And so, our focus on Antarctica and the Southern Hemisphere will be important?

Yes. It sure will.

(laugh) You look like the cat that ate the canary!

(Laughter) I tell you the truth.

The End

Ok, all right, well, thank you, thank you, thank you so much for all of this information that you’ve brought forth today. It is such an honor to do this work.

Of course. I’m really honored that I could be here.

And all of the English came out perfect.

Thank you (laughter) I suppose being a collective entity, you know, and having that, you can pick up on languages more easily. It doesn’t really matter where or what.

It’s kind of vibrational isn’t it?

Yes, absolutely!

Well, you rocked it (laugh).

That’s great!


Session 1: Part 2

Facilitated by Suzanne Spooner, July 2015.

Part 2: The Conversation Continues

Tell us, what have you heard?

I’ve heard that one person after a disaster that has nothing to do with any of your doings, can suddenly try and tell the peoples that- I’m sorry, I am having a very hard time communicating in your language because (laughter) your language is extremely dense, like, it’s, I mean . . .

(laugh) Right, I have heard this before.

It doesn’t roll of the tongue, it’s ummm . . .

You’re doing a great job, by the way.

(laugh) Really, cause I feel like I’m failing you, I feel like I’m not describing things in your language even properly.

So, this one person did what, that you were sharing with me. There was a natural disaster or something?

Oh yes, so, in your country I believe or at least in the area where you live, there’s a lot of times a disaster and someone will rise up, especially, its in the South of your nation isn’t it, like the Southeast. The people will rise up, an old man say, and he’ll proclaim that it was the cosmos and that they all have to do something in the name of the cosmos but it never lines up exactly with what needs to be done on your actual planet in order for things to become more stable and for things to become more balanced.

What else have you heard about what’s happening on Earth?

(laughter) I mean, the stuff about the Northern Hemisphere is pretty funny, we make jokes about it here, um, because we’ve never heard about a planet that has been given so many chances and has just screwed up royally (laugh) multiple times. And you guys have been whitewashed, I mean literally your waters have risen to take over lands just because the council just was so fed up in your area, as I understand. I remember some stories of people, friends that I have, that tell me about your planet and how the Northern Hemisphere had everything and they kept telling the rest of the world that they belonged to the North. Which A, doesn’t make any sense to us because as we understand it, the North is completely different from the South and there’s, I mean, great distances and stuff like that. As far as we understand, your species has not transcended space and time like we have, so the rat race for the land is extremely silly to us. You guys have plenty of it (laugh). And obviously we see the fighting, we saw the atomic weapons used and . . .

What did you guys think of that?

Ummm, we’ve seen it before. We knew what was going to happen, especially me and my friends because of our –

Energy background?

Well, yeah, I mean, our intellectual capacities. We know what has happened to other planets that (laughter) have done such things and  its rather chaotic for Earthlings because from your point of view or from, well, at least your point of view we understand that you guys don’t seem to be in connection or communication even with your council. Everyone else is, mostly, in communication with their councils and is pretty aware of what the heck their council wants them to do and what also not to do. To remain balanced and stray away from things that they know . . .

So why is it that Earth is so isolated from their council?

Hmmmm, there is one troubling species in the corner of your universe. We’ll call it that because you can actually travel between universes, there’s not one. It’s not one, they do bounce against, literally, one another. It’s an infinite multiverse and to you its frivolous because as you understand it, I believe you guys on Earth cannot comprehend beyond our single universe because you have not mapped that yet. So it’s kind of weird to imagine that there would be another one but there is and you guys are right on track. In terms of your corner of this particular universe, as I understand it, there is a species that you guys are aware of already that has caused trouble in the past and are still causing trouble on your surface.

And what species would you be referring to?

The Reptilians. They’re a, I mean, we use the word lizard and that is, as far as I know, actually from our planet because I think we are one of the first ones to interact with these guys.


On Kylox?

Yeah, some of these Reptilians. They are, I mean they’re fiercely loyal to their own kind but they don’t care about causing chaos. And they are really, really advanced in what we call fog weapons systems. You guys are not familiar with this yet but you will be.

What is fog weapons systems?

So, actually you can saturate an atmosphere with particles or with energy itself, depending on who is in charge and what they want to do with the surface and who is on the surface. And the Reptilians are particularly adept at tuning their weapons systems. This I know because I studied weapons systems, on Kylox actually. That’s where my formal training actually came in. As far as I know, I was being prepped before a potential invasion by the Reptilians of our home planet, but it was a sub-branch of the Reptilians, I don’t know their name. They are more gray though, than green, as you would know it. They’re basically the cousins of the larger race. There is a green one and I can keep using the colors, that . . . I am familiar with some English and I am not really sure how much of that is what is being channeled through Phil or if it is something that I’ve picked up as well. So we will just say it’s a little bit of both.

It sounds very English, you’re doing very well.


Matter of fact, do you think you could demonstrate a little bit of your own language through him?

Hmmm, ummm, (long pause) it’s very hard to pronounce for him. He is really trying his best.

If it’s too much its no problem.

Umm, the problem with our language is it’s a lot of consonants together, so for him, he wants to enunciate for you and (laugh) our language, umm, we’ve been told already (laugh) we should try and easen up on our language (laughter).

(laugh) Ok.

We need to make it a little easier for outsiders who meet us because they cannot . . . so I, ah, I actually have studied English to a degree but not as much to converse.

He has a great study of the Earth languages.



Yes and I think that’s because he is, it’s hard to say, to be honest. I don’t feel like I know Phil. Umm, so I’m really sorry I can’t answer more questions about him right now. I might be able to if you ask me some more questions umm, but I don’t, I don’t know too much about him right now.

Ok, well, that’s ok. We want to get to know you a little bit better. You had mentioned, was it the Ministry of Science?


Ok, tell us about the Ministry of Science.

So that’s just an aggregate term. I am sure that in your society it would be considered rather silly to call it that but, we just use it as an all-encompassing term. It includes everything from mathematics to I mean, the study of kinetics in all of its forms. Whether it is a military application or whether it is a civilian application. And we don’t take the time to first set out on a project that we distinguish as military or civilian, we just set out on a project and when we see its applications we hand it over immediately and we give a written report as to our suggestions, which are taken very, very seriously by our government because of the tests we passed to get to where we are today.

What were those tests like for you?

Oh, they were grueling! Very grueling, I mean, I had to survive, like, I mean in a suit, on the surface for 3 days. Much like some of your military personal do strenuous tests here on this planet. It’s not unlike that, it’s you know, try and survive, make a shelter, make sense of the storms, try to predict storms. That’s something we try to do to help our home planet better make sense of our weather systems and the problem with weather systems is that they are ever evolving. We also made the mistake of messing with our weather systems and, unfortunately, they are tainted to a degree but they’re still in shape. And they’re still revolving around our planet but they are not what they once were. We have a much thinner atmosphere and we’ve had to, well, we didn’t have to but we did, we chose to. We chose to fill our atmosphere with certain particles; it was actually gold, as far as I know. And that helps keep away some of the deadly radiation that we don’t want. It helps, cause, I mean, the Sun in our area, in our solar system, is very bright. It is, I mean it is a white star. It’s huge.

So it is a different Sun than it is in the Earth solar system?

Yeah, it’s bigger. And we’re not as close, I guess you could say, as you are to yours. But we’re by no means cold. It’s a very temperate climate for the most part on our planet.

An are you talking about the – ?

The Kylox.

Kylox, OK.

The M1, the research planet, where the laboratory is, the winds get so volatile and that’s because we blew away the atmosphere trying to create that energy system. We were trying to create an entire energy system out of a terrestrial object, not unlike your moon. And we thought it would be a perfect way to, you know, to (sigh) decrease the dependency on energy systems we had to keep getting on our home planet, on Kylox. And so we were very interested in zero-point energy systems, especially to the point where our atmosphere on Kylox started to, more or less, disintegrate.

Wow, so that was a big deal.

Yeah, I mean, for a long time people were coming up with designs for like gas-mask suits and talking about how we were going to have to live that way but it’s not the case, we were able to make sense of things. There are skyscrapers and cities and, I mean, most of the time people love being outdoors. They love being around the trees, they’re tropical, you might mistake them for palm trees. And they, especially in the capital city, umm (long pause) yeah Mechrisnek, uh, Mechrisnek is, is a big city (laugh) and it’s –

Can you spell that?

Umm, M-E-C-H, Oh my gosh, your language is tough, R-I and then it goes S-N-E-K.

Ok, thank you, Mechrisnek.

And the tower, our tallest building in Mechrisnek, is not unlike your, the new tower that was built in, umm, the big deserts where all the wars are happening.


Yes, yup.


In Dubai, ok, interesting. Ok, so M1 is research planet where you are experimenting with different energy systems and experimentations?

Yeah, there’s no experimentation on living things. It’s all, as I said Nikola Tesla, that name you’ll be familiar with, it’s all in relation to him. So he is not originally from Earth. He came to impart knowledge, not only in the center part, I believe you call it Europe, but also when he moved across the water. He was there to impart knowledge on your Northern Hemisphere and your Northern Hemisphere refused his knowledge. And unfortunately the people in control reserved the –

Ok, cause I was going to say there are a lot of people that are really wanting that.

Absolutely, yeah, it’s the people that are in control. See the thing is about our planet, we have democracy just like you guys but there is more of a sense of what needs to be done in the collective priority sense. It’s really hard to come up with a term in English to describe what we do. Because first it’s dispersed unconsciously at a collective level amongst all of our peoples, these ideas and these values. And it’s not as you might think, it’s not dictatorial, it’s not brainwashing. Our planet above all seeks balance, as I had mentioned before, and that is the precursor to success and progress. So without the fundamentals of balance in place, and without your emotions in check, you’re liable to experience destruction and chaos of a type that, it is irreconcilable at a certain point. And your society is going to come to that realization very soon.

So what is going to cause that realization, do you see?

Again I see Antarctica playing a very big role in the future and it has to do with the fact that the water, as I know it, is rising so the cities where a lot of your people dwell now aren’t going to be around soon. And, like I said, that’s sad and I know many of you would want to cry, but it’s unfortunately your mistake.

So is that something you see happening in a quick time frame or is it a gradual thing?

Unfortunately it’s going to be a very gradual, but it’s going to be very constant. And I’m really, really sorry to report this to you and your species if you weren’t aware of this. But in terms of what needs to be done to make sure your species does carry on and that Earth does carry on, the council decided instead of letting the waters take over all the lands again, they’re going to give the Southern Hemisphere a shot. And the reason why, I think, they’ve done this is because you guys have the ability now to traverse your planet. So you can actually get some of the minds that do matter and are thinking, you know, at a collective Earthly level as to what can be done and what should be done and how to do it properly and ethically. They can get to the others that are being given, the individuals and the chances and the intellectual capacities really, even though they are poorer, lacking in natural resources, they are ravaged by, you know, conflict and even war in some places. We are genuinely confused on our planet why your species is fighting over desert (laugh) because we have encountered deserts too and as far as we know there is not much there for us. I mean nobody lives in our deserts.

I think it is more for the fossil fuels because we haven’t evolved enough to use something beyond fossil fuels, would that make sense?

Hmmm, OK, absolutely.

Kind of stupid (laughter).

It’s understandable but in the scheme of things it is understandable what happened. That fog weapons system is totally obfuscating the average persons ability even, to – you call them days and I’m really confused by this term because we don’t have this term on our planet, we don’t have the concept of a day on our planet. We have ummm –

Do you keep time?

We do keep track of time, yup, but we don’t like, it’s not like a rigid like, umm, gosh, time is, well we experience time differently than you guys. It takes longer for the sun to actually go around our planet, so, at times we are experiencing more sunlight and at times we are experiencing like pitch black. So cities have definitely flourished for a reason on our, on Kylox, but our species overall is, as far as I understand, it’s you know, of white, almost translucent skin because of our need to adapt to the extreme darkness. Because we have such a long rotational period.

Tell me more about what you know about the councils?

(laugh) They are extremely equipped. So what I mean by that is they can influence your planet at an energetic level. But when a fog weapons system is utilized or deployed, like it is on your planet, there is almost nothing that they can do except for continue to try to bombard the surface with their thoughts and beliefs. So they do that in an intense way and this is one of the only places, as far as I ever heard, where the council does it this way in the universe that we reside in. They will choose individuals to either be born or, I mean, worse for the individuals that are not born this way, they just receive a bunch of information. And a lot of times they don’t know what to do with it. A lot of times they don’t even do anything with it. But that’s the council trying to break the first phase of that fog weapons system deployed by the Reptilians. The Reptilians did that on purpose to, I mean, to obliterate, you know, critical thought but also the ability to recognize that there is a council that does oversee your planet and that area of the solar system. Because there’s councils that are close to you, as far as I can tell. But they don’t, I mean there is an Earth specific one because of how much is going on in your area.

And, you know, we’re interested in your planet. We have books on your planet. But I think it has been about 200 years in your time since we visited or anybody’s picked up any more knowledge and like written it, I don’t know, written it down or published it. Because it’s talked about but it takes a while for some reason, for us to, oh, it’s because we don’t, we don’t cut trees down. We don’t like to do that, so to make like writing possible, it actually is a form of energy and that was another part of the M1 laboratories. It’s a pretty big complex that I’m talking about on this terrestrial object. These facilities are designed to help Kylox in a lot of ways. And so it’s very important that we do that, boy (sigh) because, gosh, English is so difficult (sigh). It’s important that we publish our information because obviously we want to share that but we had to actually – in opposite of your species, we actually did the, as far as I know, we did the reverse. Your species believes that it wrote down things first and then it’s capable of transmitting communications from brain to brain. We do that automatically, so that’s our default, uh (pause) I don’t know, primary mode of communication. And we easily disseminate. And it’s not an annoying thing. It’s not like “oh, ding!” you know, “you got a new message from the government” in your head. It’s not like that. It’s imbued in our electro-signaling.


So, kind of like an internal email system?

Ehm, it’s more of a feeling that we all get. So everybody is very empathetic towards one another, so people are capable of understanding one another and where they’re coming from pretty quickly. So in terms of like, collective dreams, visions, uh, values, it’s really easy to share those with one another because it’s really easy to feel where someone else is coming from. But that was part of our training, especially for M1 (laugh). We had to control our emotions because there’s no way they were going to let us near this equipment and, I mean, like to experiment (laughter) with this stuff if we had emotions because we would just get frustrated.

So, then, because you can feel and understand what people are wanting to do, does that mean you can create a lot faster and easier?

We can create some things much faster it seems, but, like, our logistics originally were very poor. And our value system did get in the way, but because of the demand, you know, for communication and the lack of devices, we had to create something. And so there was always a lot of talking between peoples and lots of feeling. Feeling of, like, one another’s, not physically feeling but like, you’re sitting in the room paying attention to one another. And that is of the utmost importance in our society. It’s better to stand there for 30 minutes, in our society, even if somebody’s not done talking because you don’t want to disrupt the communications. So in that time, it looks like we’re not doing anything but we’re actually processing a lot of stuff and we’re actually thinking about a lot of things. And we’re actually just doing other things because that’s how we get to communicate. We get to receive really awesome information instantaneously through that collective membrane.

So you’re aware that you’re communicating with me through Phil?


Ok, so, for you, how did this initiation of this communication begin? How are you aware that this was starting to take place, this conversation?

Um, uh, Phil more or less, this is extremely weird to explain (laughter). Phil more or less traveled to M1 and took the body of me, Charlie, and he still technically occupies my body at the same time as me. Which, I don’t, I don’t know how to reconcile that with, I don’t know how to explain that.

Is that for just this experience or has he had more experience in the body of you, Charlie, other than this time?

It’s, it’s within the body. He hasn’t even met Charlie, as far as, yeah, he hasn’t ever met Charlie. So they don’t even know each other, I am pretty sure –

To be continued . . .