Facilitated by Ella, April 29th, 2020
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Hello!
Hi!
It’s good to connect with you!
It has been a long time.
Yes, yes it has. A lot has been happening here. We’re glad we were able make this happen today, it has been longer than we hoped.
Yeah.
So, as you probably know, we worked on some questions to ask you but if you have anything you want to start off with, feel free to share whatever you have to say.
We’re open to what you have to share first.
Ok, awesome! So we’ll start with what everybody on Earth is talking about right now, the Corona virus or the Covid19 virus, whatever you want to call it. From your perspective, how would you describe what is going on?
It’s a weird nexus of many things; opportunities and risks and losses and sacrifices. From our perspective it has to do with light over-taking lesser light, so light that doesn’t shine as brightly, or in your terms might not matter as much. But that doesn’t have to do with the ones that are enacting this, this has to do with the people that are on Earth in mass. And the sour-colored individuals are being trampled by those that really appreciate the opportunity to be on Earth in this life and appreciate the opportunities and freedoms and liberties afforded to them in this life. So that’s what’s going to triumph. That’s what we see is going to triumph in the end here. It’s those that are unadulterated, they’re not altered by fear, they’re not altered by some external persuasion that’s telling them to be controlled or allow themselves to be controlled. People are going to flourish and do what they want. And we see that happening sooner than later in a lot of the Western countries of your Earth, but especially your country. It’s not going to take hold, the idea of control. And that’s the whole point of this virus, to test the waters to see if you guys are all up for the idea of being controlled in mass and allowing yourselves to be preyed upon.
Are you talking about the New World Order doing the testing or who is doing the testing?
Something like that, something akin to that, yeah. And it has to do with the person that you call Doctor Fauci and the Chinese Communist Party and people you would call globalists in the past who have gotten together already. So we see Bill Gates and we see a number of other figures involved that have to do with large policy, like Barack Obama and even Joe Biden to a lesser degree.
From your perspective, is this something they’ve been working up to?
Yes. They’ve been working on this for many, many years because everything isn’t going to their standard. They thought that you would all comply and they thought that you would all submit so easily and quickly and on their terms. You guys are not going to do that and it’s not going to plan, according to them. And this was just a test case for an even worse scenario but it was their way of testing the waters and establishing the foundations upon which they could go further and take away more of your allowances and opportunities and do that at will without any kind of criticism.
They want to put you online on purpose so that they separate you from reality. That’s why their all having you stay inside and connected to the internet so you feel like you’re connected to the world. And you’re talking to maybe your colleagues with telework or Telehealth or something like that, but you’re not really connected because it is not the same thing to connect over the internet versus connecting in real life. The connections that people build in real life are different, as far as we can tell. They’re fundamentally different. So they want to deprive you of that and then they want to deprive you of even more than that, as far as we can tell. We encourage you – we see this as an extension of the fog-weapons system and that whole entire control mechanism at work on your planet. It doesn’t have anything to do with that beyond your planet and they are trying to ramp up efforts as far as we can tell because they think the fog system is weakening, from our perspective, and we see them trying to strengthen it and bolster it with newer mechanisms, satellites. We see like a web.
Is that the 5G stuff?
Yes, partly.
A lot of people are concerned about that.
They’re not wrong and a lot of it has to do with the fact that the 5G opportunities that we see presented on your Earth are originating from the Chinese Communist Party or affiliated entities. So it’s the same thing as your virus you’re enduring, it’s all from the same place. And the reason why they’ll never take responsibility is it was set up that way by even people from your country and the surrounding countries in the West that you know and that your countrymen know as allies. They all chose China because they knew that nothing would be believed as truthful or not. So China is the easiest place to launch a lot of these things.
So what would be your advice to the average person, who doesn’t want to get caught up in the fear, in order to fight what’s going on?
Well don’t comply with societal regulations, do what you think is right. Do what’s right in your heart, as you say. And follow your gut. Don’t believe “science” because there is no such thing as “science”. That’s an absolutist term used by authoritarians, as far as we can
tell, in order to instill fear. And in order to instill compliance and control; to manipulate your mind into thinking that you’re not following the facts. We don’t see any reason why people shouldn’t fight for what they believe in and if they really want to pursue their opportunities unabated, then they need to stand up for themselves at every possible turn. And even at your local levels, you need to avoid the fear and just go and do what you think is your life. And the more you allow the fear then the more you allow this system to come into control and to take over your mind and allow yourselves completely to be ruined.
Thank you for all of that, I’m sure many will appreciate hearing that. I was wondering, from your perspective, how will humanity look back on this period of time dealing with this virus?
As a foolish time, as a foolish period of time in your history. That’s how it will be viewed by your people. Even with those that really did try their best, it will be viewed as foolish because the amount of people that died, the amount of people that got sick even, isn’t proportional to the population of your country at large. It’ll be different in different parts of your planet. So we see Europe viewing this differently. 
We see East Asia and China viewing this differently, even among their population, and that will cause divisions down the road. So what you know as internationalism or globalism is over with, it’s no longer going to be that type of world. But there is going to be a lot of opportunities in your country in particular, that arise because your country is going to take care of itself because it has the capacity to. That’s what we see. And we see Europe trying to do the same but failing in many ways. We see the same in Asia and Russia and the Middle East, as you call it, and we see them being ok. And Australia being ok and more self-sufficient.
Europe will struggle for the rest of your life, from here on out. From what we can tell this is the final nail in the coffin of the European Union. We don’t see any more serious cooperation among nationalities in Europe. And we don’t see that continuing any further, we see so many disruptions and then many fractures from there. 
And we just see a lot of blame and rioting and civil strife and then nationalistic responses in the end from countries that wouldn’t even consider that to be their national policies today. So they make fun of your country for being nationalistic under your current leader, President Trump. But they will be no different very soon. And it doesn’t mean World War Three at all, it means that people and nations are going to be the priorities. The national priorities will refocus the Earth.
As far as we can see, travel will resume though. Tourism and flights, we see all that resuming. And train travel. But you won’t be able to travel without your passports and there will be tougher border restrictions no matter where you go. That doesn’t mean within the individual countries, it means between the countries, that’s what we see.
Thank you for sharing that, is there anything else you want to add about the virus?
We see a lot of efforts to mandate individuals at the societal level to comply with a mandatory vaccine or mandatory something. Shots and therapy and masks and gloves even, we see. And that is different per country that we see. But we don’t think that is something you should comply with. We see that as part of the regime of fear that’s trying to take hold on your planet right now and instill you with something that isn’t warranted in terms of fear regarding your planet, as far as we understand. We don’t understand the past and how your leaders, we’ve seen and understand, are comparing the past to now and that’s simply not true. It does not reflect it.
Like the Spanish Flu you mean?
Or even wars! We’ve heard that that’s a thing, we understand that that is a thing going on on your planet. And that is not equivocal at all. And your people are buying in to that en masse in some cases, depending on the nations. Not your country necessarily. In fact, your country is leading the way with Australia, as far as we can tell, for the liberty and freedom seeking peoples of the Earth. And we also see countries, like Japan even, that maybe were once more restrictive, embracing more individual liberties and freedoms as a result of this situation on your planet. So where they once were more restrictive, they will become more open. Like maybe your country even.
We see the people of the whole planet no longer tolerating lies from telecommunications and media. And yet they want to participate in that technology, they want to have the technology and tune in but they don’t want to be lied to anymore. And we see many, many, many types of people: Japanese, Australian, Americans, some Europeans, Russians, Middle Easterners of different varieties defying their own government orders, even Indians defying their government orders. And some of the Chinese will do that but we don’t think it will be enough. But we do see China being punished, especially by the majority of the world.
The majority of the nations will frown upon how China behaved and you will all look back and will frown upon the way China reported information to you and your nations. And you will all want to sanction them in some ways, some of your nations will do it more harshly. For example, your nation will lead the way in sanctioning China and seeking retribution for misleading your planet regarding this whole entire phenomenon.
How will this affect the CCP? Will they lose power?
There will be a fracturing. We don’t see the current leader staying in power, we see him having to resign, Xi Jinping. The CCP will still remain but it will be weakend. It will have fractured like an earthquake split the giant block of the CCP in half or in two thirds and one third. But it will still be a thing. That’s not the final end of the CCP.
Will the fracturing give more freedom to the Chinese people?
We see more and more people just defying the CCP and not a loosening of rules but more so the people that are in China simply just defying and utilizing proxies on your internet. Simply routing their lives around controls they know are unenforceable. And even if they are enforceable they’re not worried anymore to die because they’ve already been scared to death by their own government. And all of you have been scared to death by your governments. And as far as we can tell it was not for legitimate reasons.
Thank you for all that information, I know that many people will be seeking that out. The next questions we have are kind of open ended but we wanted to ask about the election in our country coming up in the fall. What do you see with that?
Problems (laugh). They will proceed but there will be so many problems that it’s going to lead to questions of potential cancellation altogether and from there to everything in between; every possibility will arise and it’ll differ between the states of your country. What we see is that different states will have different prevailing opinions about what should happen. And it will kind of be on a regional basis, like we see the NorthEast of your country thinking one way and we see the South and your area of the country thinking differently. And the mountains versus the West coast thinking differently from one another even. It’ll be different per state even, it’ll be all factionalized. So we see some sort of committee arising, like a new congressional or constitutional type committee, that arises and is appointed and is binary and could potentially be utilized as a decision maker when it comes to the election. Beyond your Supreme Court, your high court. We see it also lasting into the colder months. We feel that, we can feel that cold and see the cold and the snow. We see not just an early winter for most of your country but we see the onset of problems, as you would call it, continuing well beyond the date of the election.
Do you see it being postponed?
No, we see it proceeding, but there will be many complications in the system in which you use. And your current leader will be defied and called a dictator but he will remain the your leader through the trial and error until some sort of decision has been made. We also see some physical violence in New York and California and the West coast area because of the “potential delay” in their eyes. But what they need to understand is that things have been set awry, many, many things. Primarily the virus and how it allowed your economy to be shut down. The economy suffering will be worse as we see it. More jobs, lives, families will be broken, lives will be lost and broken; we see more problems arising. Cities will be broken and states will be broken and literally bankrupt. And they will cry for help to your government, your federal government. And we see money being given to certain states but other states being denied help in some ways, like Missouri and Louisiana being denied help. But New York and Texas and Illinois and Washington getting help and even Florida getting help. This will affect the outcome of the election because the peoples that were going to vote one way have fundamentally been changed.
And this was all a ploy. This was a ploy by one of your political parties to upend your society. And it wasn’t just orchestrated by them, it was amplified by them and it was amplified by your telecommunications and communications peoples, your media as you call it. Your prevailing media authorities in your society have caused such a stir that people don’t seem to know up from down or left from right in our perspective anymore, in many ways and many subject matters and topics. And we see your people confused in a lot of ways and that will affect their voting habits in ways that’s different than what was predictable for years past or even the years leading up to now. And the allowance by your leaders to do such a thing should be questioned. Every leader that did 
obstruct you or your peoples, we see them being questioned hard, like very strongly by the peoples of their respective states. We see a lot of states seeing upheaval because of that, like Michigan and Virginia and Pennsylvania. We see those states and we see a lot of just normal people defying orders and raising arms against the state government of the respective territories that we mentioned and overthrowing and reforming many of their state organizations and ways.
Do you see it coming to violence?
There will be arms used but we don’t – we see violence in Michigan potentially and somewhat in Virginia to a degree. But it won’t be so much violence as the authorities will be faced by individual citizens with arms raised and they will simply back down. It won’t require bloodshed except maybe in Michigan to a degree. That will set a tone and that will reverberate like a shockwave through your country and it will send fear into the spines and blood of your authorities for eternity. For the rest of your nations history your authorities will be reminded that your people run your nation not them. And it will be because of people that were very average stood up and decided enough was enough. And they really are pissed. They are really, really, really angry and nothing will stop them from their goals. No matter how much rhetoric is spewed at them, that only is fueling them. The more that they are prodded and poked, the more they will not put up with a single ounce of overextension, as we see it, or retaliation by state authorities.
From your perspective, why have those individuals that have passed, succumbed to the virus?
We literally see their spirits rising. It literally is exactly their time. And yeah, they definitely signed up for this time. We think it’s fairly silly and we see it as ostentatious that your peoples would view it as anything but their time. How are you to know it wasn’t their time? And why would you ruin peoples lives in order to simply try to answer a question that you don’t have the answer to? Like, is it their time? Who are you to ask that? That is what we see. We see a lot of arrogance right now. Amongst the people that are especially allowed to stay home and be ok. We see them acting as if they know all the facts. We encourage those people to stop talking and move out of the way so that progress can actually be made because they’re not helping and they don’t understand. They think they understand from our view but quite honestly the cosmos is laughing at them individually. And is saying “How dare you proclaim that you know. You think you know and you think that you are somehow more spiritually inclined because you know or because you’re proclaiming that you know that this is the right thing to do. Are you even considering some of the basics?” That is what we and the rest of your surrounding cosmos is saying, from what we can see. Literally pointing and laughing at these individuals in your society that are saying this because all we hear about your society is that you are freedom seekers and you are freedom lovers. But you are voluntarily giving up your own rights and for what in exchange? We don’t understand. You are lying to yourselves. That’s what we see. You are misleading yourselves by choosing to plug in to certain authorities and to listen to them and to care and to give them credence. Even though their “science” doesn’t even match the reality.
Thank you for that, I appreciate your perspective on that. Hopefully that will help people calm down a little bit. So besides the virus and the election what else do you see for our year 2020?
Volcanoes will be issues worldwide, especially towards the end of the year. Not in your country or society but Indonesia in particular is going to suffer a very large explosion of some kind with regard to a volcano. And we see that affecting not really towns, but the cloud cover will and that will rain ash down on towns. We see some big earthquakes again in that same sector of Southeast Asia. We see something happening to Singapore but we’re not really sure what. We do see buildings crumbling but we’re not really sure if it is Singapore or somewhere else nearby in Southeast Asia, like Bangkok or Kuala Lumpur. But we see some sort of issue arising right in that area, towards September and October in this year of yours.
Like an earthquake?
Yes, something like that. Not a war. We also see Japan and Korea trying to get the Olympics going again and your Olympics are going to be potentially changed. We see them being changed forever. The way that you used to celebrate them will be changed. And not because of health concerns that are real but because of fear. We see walls being erected and fences and we don’t see anybody, like no audience. So we take that to mean that you’ll be highly restricted.
Like TV viewing only?
For the most part. Otherwise you’ll require immense checks in order to be allowed into big events like that internationally. Especially outside your country.
Any other events you see happening this year?
We see something happening at the Sydney Opera House, we think it is the Sydney Opera House but we’re not sure. It could be a stadium in your country, it is very hard for us to make it out and we don’t know what it is. It is some sort of event. It’s not the destruction of the stadium or the venue. It has something to do with people inside. Like there will be some sort of event inside that’s bad. We see it as some sort of gas or aerosol pumped into the venue and hurting a lot of people.
Like a terrorist attack?
Yes. We see them in formal wear, the people that are suffering. And they’re coughing.
And you think that’s in Sydney?
Yes.
When do you see that happening?
November.
And how will the world react to that?
Horrified. People will be scared to go to Australia again from your country and from all the countries of the world. It will be similar to your 9/11 in fear level. But the one opportunity and beneficiary that we see from this situation is potentially your nation 
because Australia will join you as we see it, even more fervently, to help you in your endeavors abroad to help fight terrorism and to be a closer ally of yours. They’ll move away from China. They will be more active in the world community.
We see them having strife with New Zealand as a result of that because we see that New Zealand doesn’t want to participate so much and doesn’t want to be such good friends, or loyal friends, to you and your nation. They would rather skimp by and get away with what they can get away with while acting more like Europe.
We see more problems between Europe and your nation arising because Europe doesn’t want to comply with your nations world order and your nation is not going to tolerate their behavior and their lack of allegiance and loyalty after all these years of protection and money spent and lives lost in the defense of Europe. Europe will be, especially the Western part, left to their own devices by your nation. And we see certain countries reaching out to yours, like Norway and some of the Nordic countries, not all. But especially Norway and Denmark will reach out to your country to build efforts together. We see less of the continent caring. What we see is an allowance that’s owed to you for helping them. But we don’t have stake in that game. Europe will suffer. They will suffer more than they have ever suffered, especially the Western part. Components of the East will do fine.
Thank you for that. Do you see any major arrest or indictments in this coming year?
Yes. We see a lot of your former administrations peoples being indicted and arrested. Even publicly with handcuffs. For example, John Brennan we see being handcuffed and arrested. And he will be on your public television, your media, in handcuffs and being walked away. 
We also see Susan Rice being indicted. We see a lot of your people being called before Congress, that were in this former administration that betrayed your country and your way of life and the checks and balances system that you guys hold so dearly to your heart. We see justice being served because we see people being reassured in mass. But in many ways it won’t be enough for a lot of people, is what we see. It won’t be enough justice.
Thank you. Is there anything else you want to add about this coming year or decade that you want to mention now?
We see some sort of conflict in a very mountainous area, relatively soon. Especially involving the Russians, maybe in Caucuses towards Armenia. But we don’t see it as a huge conflict, we don’t see it as many nations fighting at the moment. There’s stuff beyond that but we can’t see it. We see helicopters, MI-24s rising over hilltops and mountaintops. 
And this is a major world event that is happening?
Yes, because it will be considered an extension or an expansion for Russia.
Like Ukraine?
Yes.
Thank you so much for sharing all of that, I know people will be interested to hear your perspective on those topics. Alright, well that was everything. Any final message you want give, either to him or to others that may be reading out there?
We encourage you to press on because there’s going to be opportunities presented to you that will never have been presented before on your planet. That’s all we have.
Ok, alright! Thank you so so much for coming through! It is always great to connect with you and you give such insightful information.
We appreciate the opportunity to come through and speak to you.
Absolutely and as always we look forward to next time!
Yes!